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Title: No Categories
Post by: Jason on October 26, 2022, 05:51:22 AM
Hi everyone,

Just loaded Patch My PC, I did not there are no categories/subcategories. On the new version. As per the screenshot. Is there anyone to set categories such as "Browsers" etc?Screenshot 2022-10-26 104645.png

Please let me know.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: coover on October 26, 2022, 07:38:40 AM
Same here! I no longer see about 30 apps that "Patch ..." formerly updated. I'm suspecting a possible legal problem might have caused this. Let us know what is happening or if this is in error.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Jason on October 26, 2022, 07:51:41 AM
Hi Coover,

Could be? Not sure.
Let's see if we can get some clarity.

Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Kurotaku on October 27, 2022, 06:20:32 AM
Changed in 4.5.0.0

"Removed the software groups. Now all software is under one list sorted alphabetically, portable software is still in its own group."

But tbh I hate it that its removed, I liked browsing through the categories and look if there is something nice to have.

I really don't understand what the admin was thinking about removing a feature instead of make it chooseable.....
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: theJazzman42 on October 27, 2022, 09:08:40 AM
Please bring back the categories.

And lots of the 300 software packages are missing now. Instead of 30+ of them installed, now I only get 20+ listed.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Jason on October 27, 2022, 09:14:50 AM
Hi theJazzman42,

I so agree with the categories and subcategories, everything was all in order, and now everything is in one huge list.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: theJazzman42 on October 27, 2022, 09:21:34 AM
I always recommended PatchMyPC to people with low-level PC knowledge to keep their apps up2date and to install new software. Especially for these people it's almost useless now.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: robwolfe on October 27, 2022, 10:03:08 AM
I also agree the categories were most useful. My question would be why not allow one to choose categories or all in one list.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: theJazzman42 on October 27, 2022, 10:09:20 AM
Sounds like a good compromise. Could be placed in options.

Another proposal - choose which categories you wanna see.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Jason on October 27, 2022, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: theJazzman42 on October 27, 2022, 09:21:34 AMI always recommended PatchMyPC to people with low-level PC knowledge to keep their apps up2date and to install new software. Especially for these people it's almost useless now.

I also recommend it too
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Jason on October 27, 2022, 12:22:10 PM
Quote from: robwolfe on October 27, 2022, 10:03:08 AMI also agree the categories were most useful. My question would be why not allow one to choose categories or all in one list.

I fully agree or have the option to have it with categories or not.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: linkhunter on October 28, 2022, 12:11:47 AM
It look like a huge mess
I am dyslexic. I have no problem with  reading it's just the spelling I'm bad at.

Categories help a lot for me since I don't need to use the search function. I just hope they gonna bring it back again soon

Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Jason on October 28, 2022, 03:16:08 AM
Quote from: linkhunter on October 28, 2022, 12:11:47 AMIt looks like a huge mess
I am dyslexic. I have no problem with reading it's just the spelling I'm bad at.

Categories help a lot for me since I don't need to use the search function. I just hope they gonna bring it back again soon



I fully understand, what I liked with the categories was everything was in its place, for example, "Browsers" Etc.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: robwolfe on October 28, 2022, 06:07:40 PM
I heard from Justin and was told "Omar let our engineering know, and we should be able to get this resolved in a future update".

Robert
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: coover on October 28, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: robwolfe on October 28, 2022, 06:07:40 PMI heard from Justin and was told "Omar let our engineering know, and we should be able to get this resolved in a future update".

Robert
I hope that update will be soon. I cannot imagine that adding the categories again would be a difficult programing problem. It would (I think) only require a few lines (the categories) to be added back to the program and other lines moved to fit the categories.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Jason on October 29, 2022, 07:54:00 AM
Quote from: coover on October 28, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: robwolfe on October 28, 2022, 06:07:40 PMI heard from Justin and was told "Omar let our engineering know, and we should be able to get this resolved in a future update".

Robert
I hope that update will be soon. I cannot imagine that adding the categories again would be a difficult programing problem. It would (I think) only require a few lines (the categories) to be added back to the program and other lines moved to fit the categories.

Let's see about future updates. I hope it gets changed I mean I understand a new look but "What ain't broke don't fix"
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: robwolfe on November 03, 2022, 08:27:05 AM
As an experiment I used the new version on a friend's machine. I found it very difficult to use. I can not image why it was changed. I can not see a new user staying with it.
Robert
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: LittlBUGer on November 04, 2022, 12:03:40 PM
I agree with everyone else. Taking away the categories really threw me for a loop. It makes it look way worse and more difficult to find other things that you need. Please bring the groups back or at least let it be an Option. Thanks!
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Jason on November 04, 2022, 12:25:53 PM
Fully agree, let's hope it returns in future updates
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: MerlinTheGreat on November 07, 2022, 03:20:19 AM
I am authistic and now with the categories removed, I can't find my way in the applist anymore. :(
The categories gave the app structure, now that's gone.
I suppose I am not the only one with this problem.
Do as robwolfe suggested and give the user the option to use categories or just one big (unstructured) list.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: theJazzman42 on November 07, 2022, 06:38:41 AM
Merlin makes a point.

I also recommended users who are not computer proficient to use PatchMyPC to install needed software. With the categories, it's easier to find out which software is available.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Mothertrucker on November 08, 2022, 06:14:21 PM
I also strongly dislike this change introduced in version 4.5.0.0 and I've created another thread (https://patchmypc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6224.0) on the Report Bugs and Issues forum on this subject.

The other notable change that's occurred in version 4.5.0.0 is the removal of numerous applications from the list of software (the full list can be found here (https://patchmypc.com/home-updater-release-notes)), some of which don't make sense as I don't believe they have been "discontinued" nor has anything changed with their installers to make them "incompatible".
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: MerlinTheGreat on November 15, 2022, 02:34:59 AM
I already notified an moderator
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Jason on November 15, 2022, 03:00:54 AM
Quote from: MerlinTheGreat on November 15, 2022, 02:34:59 AMI already notified an moderator

Thanks!
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: topbanana on November 15, 2022, 08:18:44 AM
What an absolute mess this now is.

Before, I'd open it, browsers: check, check... multimedia: check, check... Utilities: Check, Check, Check... Etc...  Done.  Awesome.

I never really had to think...  Everything was logically sorted and it gives you an easy pattern to follow... Which is what you need if you're doing this stuff a lot... Which almost all of us PMPC users are...

Now:  Open it...  Errrr...  brain ache.  Dyslexia doesn't help...  Miss many items...  Have to open it later when i know there missing...  Swear A LOT!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!

The ONLY issue with the categories, was that the utilities one was a little too big... It needed to be split up a bit.  That's all.

This is an absolutely amazingly useful bit of software!
But completely buggered by the removal of categories.

I hope that the person that suggested this change, and the manager who signed it off both have to wear a dunce's cap for one whole month.

I look forward to our beloved PMPC returning to its former glory.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Jason on November 15, 2022, 11:37:40 AM
Fully agree! Patch My PC, as stated in this 2-page thread now. It was way better before this new version with Categories.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: jpldavidson on November 16, 2022, 08:45:45 AM
Hi, I'm new here.  Been using Patch My PC for quite some time and must admit its my go to place when I want to try out new software and to rely on for updating existing software.

I've been using PC's, more or less since they became affordable and available to the general public and am considdered to be a bit of an expert.  I offer free advice and help to friends and collegues with both software and hardware.

I'm adding to this thread my support for the previous comments, please bring back catagories, they're invaluable to newbies and not so newbies alike.  I was recommending your software to people, but feel i cannot now, due to it just being a list of annonymous and meaningless software titles.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: ea on November 19, 2022, 04:15:27 PM
I have been using Patchmypc for at least two years. I ignored the minor problems. I hoped it would improve in the next version. But I came here because I could not accept the removal of the categories. Categories are very useful when installing in a new pc. Also to discover beautiful apps
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: theJazzman42 on November 29, 2022, 02:59:02 AM
I do the major work now with UCheck free. Recommended me three updates PatchMyPC didn't and has categories. And allows you to install new software you don't already have on your system.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Jason on December 01, 2022, 01:36:07 AM
Thanks let me have a look at that.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: LittlBUGer on December 01, 2022, 09:10:47 AM
Quote from: theJazzman42 on November 29, 2022, 02:59:02 AMI do the major work now with UCheck free. Recommended me three updates PatchMyPC didn't and has categories. And allows you to install new software you don't already have on your system.

Though they do have a free and portable version of this to update already installed software, the ability to install new software is only available through their paid version. So, for me, it becomes nearly useless. Not that the Premium or Technician editions are expensive, but still, not the same.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Omar (Patch My PC) on December 01, 2022, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: LittlBUGer on December 01, 2022, 09:10:47 AM
Quote from: theJazzman42 on November 29, 2022, 02:59:02 AMI do the major work now with UCheck free. Recommended me three updates PatchMyPC didn't and has categories. And allows you to install new software you don't already have on your system.

Though they do have a free and portable version of this to update already installed software, the ability to install new software is only available through their paid version. So, for me, it becomes nearly useless. Not that the Premium or Technician editions are expensive, but still, not the same.

You can select and install from the home updater any software that isn't installed already...
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: LittlBUGer on December 02, 2022, 08:44:18 AM
Quote from: Omar (Patch My PC) on December 01, 2022, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: LittlBUGer on December 01, 2022, 09:10:47 AM
Quote from: theJazzman42 on November 29, 2022, 02:59:02 AMI do the major work now with UCheck free. Recommended me three updates PatchMyPC didn't and has categories. And allows you to install new software you don't already have on your system.

Though they do have a free and portable version of this to update already installed software, the ability to install new software is only available through their paid version. So, for me, it becomes nearly useless. Not that the Premium or Technician editions are expensive, but still, not the same.

You can select and install from the home updater any software that isn't installed already...

The whole point of this thread is that PatchMyPC (the Home version) no longer has any categories, which is very confusing and off-putting. There is actually another thread with multiple people saying the same thing, on top of everyone in this thread (https://patchmypc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6224.0). The purpose of our recent replies with UCheck is that it was an alternative that DOES have categories. I just pointed out that UCheck Free does NOT allow you to install new software, only update currently installed software. We know that PatchMyPC DOES allow you to install new software, but that's not the point.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: robwolfe on December 15, 2022, 07:14:32 PM
The thought occurs to that the latest version has numerous problems. Can the previous version be renumbered and replace the current version until the problems are fixed?
Robert
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Kurotaku on December 31, 2022, 09:30:41 PM
Just saw there is an update from 30.12 and thought "hopefully the categories are comming back" ...

Still not >:( this software is getting worse and worse, paint.net is already up to date and the app still don't recognize it and anydesk is getting still shown in the list even when the scanning for it is already disabled, since the 7.1.x version is a complete downgrade since aliases can be only used with a license.

Sad that there are no good alternatives
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: linkhunter on January 17, 2023, 05:57:54 AM
I'm using winget in powershell temporary until categories come back
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: osmanelitok on March 05, 2023, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: robwolfe on December 15, 2022, 07:14:32 PMThe thought occurs to that the latest version has numerous problems. Can the previous version be renumbered and replace the current version until the problems are fixed?
Robert

It is fixed when I change the date format to English. maybe an update is needed on this. thanks
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: [email protected] on April 04, 2023, 07:44:58 AM
I am of the same opinion.  I miss not having the apps sorted by category.  Please bring this feature bac, and if possible make it optional so that both camps can be satisfied.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: jpldavidson on April 04, 2023, 08:29:56 AM
Well this has been going on for some time now.  I'm guessing that the free software didn't bring in enough sales for their professional product.  Its a shame, as it was really well executed and thought out, but that's the way of things
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: snakepaws on April 20, 2023, 07:04:30 AM
Categories made for easy installing of apps on a fresh install of Windows, going section by section and installing what's needed. It also made it "fun" to explore what apps were in each category to check out. I don't really understand the decision to remove the different categories. It just makes a giant mess of a list with no real indication of what each item is since there's no descriptions either. So you just kind of have to "know what you're looking for" - and it makes it easy to miss things since, you know, there's no categories to quickly skim through easily. Sigh.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Jason on April 20, 2023, 01:13:00 PM
Fully agree.
No clue why they changed it... Let's hope (have been) that the Categoties will come back. Hoping...
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: jpldavidson on May 17, 2023, 05:09:06 AM
Well, I see that despite all the posts, this inconvenience is being ignored altogether.

May I make a suggestion to all you people looking for something similar.  IOBIT Software Updater has similar functions, including a Recommended section with categories.

No, I don't work for them or any other software or even computer related business, I'm just a bus driver.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Justin Chalfant (Patch My PC) on May 22, 2023, 11:14:20 AM
Hi All,

We did collapse things into a single category. We appreciate the feedback and will review feedback for future improvements.
Title: Re: No Categories
Post by: Memphis on August 01, 2023, 02:21:19 AM
I always recommended PatchMyPC to people with low-level PC knowledge to keep their apps up2date and to install new software