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Hi Justin:

It's been some time since I posted something on this forum. 

IMHO, one important bit of information appears to be missing when PMPC creates a report.  That bit of information is the date.  Other important information such as PMPC version number, time, etc. is included in the report summary but the date is missing.

FYI, I have installed your software on ALL PCs I currently service for my customers.   Your software is evolving very nicely and you are very responsive to your audience.  Please keep up the good work.

Best regards,

Dan Silva

Hi Justin:

As promised, I tested out PMPC 2.0.7.4 on my laptop which is running Windows XP PRO_SP3.  The option to install outdated optional updates by default option does work when set in the GUI and run by the command prompt with the /s switch.  The following APPS on my laptop, which were outdated, were updated to the latest version with the exception of FoxIT reader (more on this later):
...  Flash AX (no issues)
...  CCleaner (no issues)
...  MBAM  (no issues)
...  Notepad ++ (no issues)
...  Firefox (installed to C and original installation on D remained-Two entries in Add/Remove programs)
...  JRE V7u2 (installed to C and JRE V6u29 remained on D-Both entries in Add/Remove programs)
...  Silverlight (installed to C)  No problem for me here as I usually install Micro$oft programs to C drive anyway.
...  FoxIT PDF reader.  This was odd.  PMPC tried to update but appeared to get stuck on version 4.3.1.0218.  Tried several times via command prompt with /s switch and same thing.  Also tried using the GUI and same thing.  I then ran the FoxIT PDF program itself and tried updating from that program.  Usually it will uninstall itself but this time it would NOT.  I landed up uninstalling it via the add/remove programs, and then installing a newer version (to D drive).  Once I did that, I reran the FoxIT program and another update was available which I installed successfully using the update routine in that program.  The latest update is V5.1.4.0104.   I think the problem here was with the FoxIT software and not PMPC based upon what I experienced.

Hope the above helps.

Dan

Hi Justin:

Sorry it took so long to get back to you.  I just got home from work and I had to look over the PMPC log files on my wife's PC because I couldn't remember which outdated APPS were NOT updated by PMPC 2.0.7.3.  I landed up having PMPC update those files by running the GUI on that program and it worked fine.

Below are the APPS which were NOT updated:

...  Google Earth
...  MBAM
...  FoxIT PDF Reader

I see that you have created another version 2.0.7.4.  I will NOT bother doing any further testing on 2.0.7.3 unless you specifically request that I do so.  BTW, I have kept all versions of PMPC from 2.0.7.1 forward in my archive and will continue to do so for a short period of time.

I will test out PMPC 2.0.7.4 on my Windows XP PRO_SP3 laptop a little later on this evening.  What I have in mind is to just run the scan using the GUI to see what APPS are listed as being outdated (NOTHING will be updated at this time).  I will then tick the 'Install Optional Updates by Default' option and close the GUI.  I will then invoke PMPC 2.0.7.4 via the command line with the /s switch (by using a batch file).  I will post my findings following this post shortly thereafter.

Take care.

Dan

Hi Justin:

I selected the 'install optional updates by default' option in the GUI of PMPC V2.0.7.3 test run on my wife's Windows XP Home_SP3 PC.  I then reran PMPC with the /s switch at the command prompt. NONE of the outdated optional software (reported on the previous GUI run) was updated.

My XP Pro_SP3 home system is already up to date so testing it there would be pointless.  My laptop is also running XP Pro_SP3 and I know I have optional software which is out of date.  I will do test runs on my laptop this evening and report my findings on a later post on this same topic.

Keep up the good work.

Best regards.

Dan

Hi Justin:

I've been watching this forum closely, done some thinking on the above, and played around with PMPC a little more.

I honestly think that it will be EXTREMELY DIFFICULT for PMPC to update programs silently via the command prompt WITHOUT experiencing the difficulties I cited in my previous post (those few people whose programs are NOT located in C:\Program Files\).  I know for a fact that MOST program installations default to the C:\Program Files\ subdirectory and will only install to a different location if forced to do so by selecting an ADVANCED installation option.  I am only aware of a few programs which retain the location of the previously installed version of that particular application when either updated or re-installed.

I am very pleased with this program overall and I plan upon incorporating its command line features (via a batch file) as an option to my customers from here forward.

I just finished making a donation to your cause.

Keep up the good work.



Dan

Hi Justin:

Thanks for posting a reply.  I think you are getting Mozilla FIREFOX and Mozilla THUNDERBIRD mixed up but I understand where you were going with this and you were ABSOLUTELY CORRECT about those registry entries.  The same also held true for Adobe Shockwave and I started to suspect that something was amiss.

After a bit more poking around, my suspicions were confirmed.  Part of the problem was the PMPC software and part of the problem is the way my PC is configured but THANK YOU for pointing me in the right direction.  Let me explain...

As I mentioned in one of my previous posts, my PC is DUAL BOOT.  I use Windows XP PRO_SP3 as my primary OS but I can also boot my PC to Windows 7 ULTIMATE (32 bit)_SP1.  Now it gets even more interesting...  I have two SATA hard drives installed in my PC.  One hard drive has 2 primary partitions-one partition for Windows XP PRO and the other partition for Windows 7 Ultimate.  My second hard drive has 3 partitions (NOT primary)-one partition is for PROGRAMS for Windows XP, one partition for PROGRAMS for Windows 7, and the last partition for all my downloads. 

Unlike most WINDOWS users, my C partition only contains my OS (and certain ancillary files/folders such as paging file) with a few exceptions.  When I install an application, it goes to my D partition.  If I download something, it goes to my E partition.  I have my Windows XP OS configured so that the primary partition for my Window 7 installation is HIDDEN as is the PROGRAMS partition for Windows 7.  When I run Windows 7 on my PC, my Windows XP partition is HIDDEN as well as the PROGRAMS partition for Windows XP.  The downloads partition is visible when running either OS.

This is what I think happened which helped cause the inconsistencies I noted earlier with respect to Mozilla THUNDERBIRD and Adobe SHOCKWAVE.  The very first time I ran PMPC on my PC using the GUI, I had it only scan everything.  I later reran that APP and I had it update all the common items as well as the optional items.  Many, but NOT all, of the items your software help to update landed up being installed on my C partition.  I found subdirectories in my PROGRAM FILES folder on my C partition for Mozilla FIREFOX, Mozilla THUNDERBIRD, and Java version 7.  Those did NOT exist there prior to my updating my system via PMPC.  I agree with you that one must be EXTREMELY CAREFUL poking around in the registry (even if you know what you are doing).  I decided to take the safer approach and I uninstalled FIREFOX, THUNDERBIRD,  JAVA, as well as the older version of Adobe Shockwave via SOP and then went over everything again with IO Bit Uninstaller to FORCE UNINSTALL whatever remained for the above mentioned APPS in either my D partition or my C partition.  I then ran the utility in CCleaner clean my REGISTRY, followed by the same action using Wise Registry Cleaner.   I then downloaded the latest versions of FIREFOX, THUNDERBIRD, JRE 7 update 2 and reinstalled them like I normally do (to my D partition).  Although a bit of a PITA, my system is now back where I want it to be and those 3 APPS are working fine and NONE of my settings were lost (whew).

I then reran the newest version of PMPC and just had it scan everything.  NO INCONSISTENCIES (TADA).

Sorry if it appear that I threw you a knuckle ball.  That was NOT my intent.  You have helped me and now I am trying to help you.  As stated in one of my earlier posts, I think this program is a KEEPER and I'm willing to 'roll up my sleeves' to help you make it even better.  In its current form I think this program will work OK for MOST of your average users who only have one partition on their hard drive.  Where I think the difficulty will arise is with those few users like me who install their programs in a location other than C:\PROGRAM FILES.

Sorry to have been so long winded.  If you wish, I am willing to post the log file for my PC generated by PMPC assuming it is allowed here.  If not, I will gladly e-mail it to you.

Thanks again and keep up the good work.

Dan

Hi Justin:

Mozilla Firefox is fine.  The version snafu is with Mozilla Thunderbird.  I also noticed that same behavior with respect to Adobe Shockwave. 

This is my first time trying to post a screen shot.  I hope I don't mess it up.  I just downloaded the very latest version of PMPC from your website and the screenshot posted (I hope) is what was shown from running that latest version of your software on my PC.

Hi Justin:

Sorry to have taken so long to get back to you on this.  Had a customer call shortly after my last post and I've been pretty busy the rest of the day.
I clicked on your link and downloaded the latest version of your software and indeed the 'hanging' problem went away WITHOUT having to run that APP in 'compatibility mode'.  Not only did I try this latest revision successfully in my wife's Windows XP HOME_SP3 system, I also tried it out in my 'dual boot' system under Windows XP PRO_SP3 and it also did NOT hang when running it in a batch file.  When I invoked the program in my system using the Windows GUI, it still said that my Thunderbird 9.0.1 e-mail software needed to be updated to 8.0.0 but, as before, that's no 'biggie' for me.

I then 'fired up' my 'dual boot' system to Windows 7 Ultimate (32 bit)_SP1.  It took me a couple of hours to apply most of the Windows Updates and then I tried running my little batch file to test out your program running silently at the command line under this environment and it worked just like it did under both systems which were running Windows XP_SP3-As it should with NO HANGS.

Thank you and nice job.

I shall be looking forward to future developments in the 'APP' and as far as I am concerned, it's a KEEPER.

Thanks again.

Dan

Thanks for your speedy reply Justin!!

I found a temporary solution to the 'hanging issue'.  I've tested it out on two machines, one with Windows XP HOME_SP3 and the other with Windows PRO_SP3 and BOTH worked (TADA).  The trick here is to run PatchMYPC.exe in compatibility mode for Windows 98/ME.

I have no idea if this workaround will work with Windows Vista and/or Windows 7.

Please keep up the good work and thanks again.

Dan

Hi:

Good work on creating such an application.  For several customers of mine who do not like to perform PM on their PCs, I created a batch file which can perform many of those tasks with one click or automatically when scheduled with Windows Task scheduler.

I tried running your latest version of PMPC on my Windows XP Pro_SP3 system using the Windows interface and it performed very well.  However, it looks as if another update to your software may be in order soon as it reported Mozilla Thunderbird as being out of date when I had version 9.01 installed and it recommended version 8.0 (no biggie here).

When I tried to run your software from the command prompt using the /s switch, I noticed that the process would NOT unload once it had 'done its thing' (invoke Windows task manager) and my batch file would HANG.  Is there a way to modify your code so that the process ends once it has finished its task? 

Another thing which would be nice would be some sort of way to configure your program so that it can be more customized when being run from the command prompt.

Below is the small batch file I created to test out the command line switches of PMPC:
.............................................................
@echo off
cd C:\progra~1\patchm~1
rem d:
rem cd d:\progra~1\patchm~1
echo Starting Patch My PC...
call PatchMyPC.exe /s
exit
...........................................................
FYI, the result is the same if I remove the 'call command' from the file as well as the 'exit' command.  I use a similar type batch file to invoke CCLeaner and when invoked by the command line, CCleaner retains the settings I made in the Windows interface (I believe this is done by an '.ini file'.  Below is an example of the CCleaner my batch file:
.........................................
@echo off
cd C:\progra~1\ccleaner
rem d:
rem cd d:\progra~1\ccleaner
echo Starting CCleaner...
call ccleaner.exe /auto
.......................................

Thanks in advance for your help

Dan