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#1
Just using the free version, going through my usual new downloads and updates on a clean Windows install, and noticed Thunderbird came back with an error that it couldn't download the file. The error is as follows:

Failed to get download information for Mozilla Thunderbird 102.15.0 (x64) Download URL: http://download-installer-origin.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/thunderbird/releases/102.15.0/win64/en-US/Thunderbird%20Setup%20102.15.0.exe

When I looked at Thunderbird's website, the latest release listed is 115.1.1. This is a large upgrade though and is only available currently as a direct download from their website and NOT as an upgrade from previous 102.x versions. The latest 102.x version listed is 102.14.0 though they say 102.15.0 will be available tomorrow, which is weird that you already had it programed to download today.

In any case, it's kind of a weird situation. If we just wait a day or two, then it'll probably fix itself. But then it's technically not the latest version since that's 115.x. BUT, if you make 115.x available, it will NOT upgrade previous 102.x versions of Thunderbird already installed on computers (at least not yet, that will come later they say). So... what to do?

So this is maybe more of an FYI than anything? Thanks for your help.
#2
Quote from: Omar (Patch My PC) on December 01, 2022, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: LittlBUGer on December 01, 2022, 09:10:47 AM
Quote from: theJazzman42 on November 29, 2022, 02:59:02 AMI do the major work now with UCheck free. Recommended me three updates PatchMyPC didn't and has categories. And allows you to install new software you don't already have on your system.

Though they do have a free and portable version of this to update already installed software, the ability to install new software is only available through their paid version. So, for me, it becomes nearly useless. Not that the Premium or Technician editions are expensive, but still, not the same.

You can select and install from the home updater any software that isn't installed already...

The whole point of this thread is that PatchMyPC (the Home version) no longer has any categories, which is very confusing and off-putting. There is actually another thread with multiple people saying the same thing, on top of everyone in this thread (https://patchmypc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6224.0). The purpose of our recent replies with UCheck is that it was an alternative that DOES have categories. I just pointed out that UCheck Free does NOT allow you to install new software, only update currently installed software. We know that PatchMyPC DOES allow you to install new software, but that's not the point.
#3
Quote from: theJazzman42 on November 29, 2022, 02:59:02 AMI do the major work now with UCheck free. Recommended me three updates PatchMyPC didn't and has categories. And allows you to install new software you don't already have on your system.

Though they do have a free and portable version of this to update already installed software, the ability to install new software is only available through their paid version. So, for me, it becomes nearly useless. Not that the Premium or Technician editions are expensive, but still, not the same.
#4
I wanted to chime in that I agree with everything said here and want to make a note of the other forum topic which has been more vocal about the changes: https://patchmypc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6199

Thanks for listening to our feedback.  :)
#5
I agree with everyone else. Taking away the categories really threw me for a loop. It makes it look way worse and more difficult to find other things that you need. Please bring the groups back or at least let it be an Option. Thanks!
#6
I was just going to request the same thing until I saw it already was. Classic Shell has always been a must have for me. I didn't even realize until today that it hasn't been developed since the end of 2017. But luckily some great people are continuing the software, rebranded as Open Shell, and it's pretty much the exact same thing but hopefully works better on newer versions of Windows 10.

Please, this needs to happen as Classic Shell refuses to re-configure itself on build 1809 of Windows 10 and probably will continue to do so on future revisions. Though, I don't know if Open Shell does the same thing at this point, at least development is continuing and will improve.

Thanks!
#7
Just to note, I can second this, as is evidence of my earlier topic here: https://patchmypc.net/forum/index.php?topic=1503.0

Still happens as of latest version from today (Nov. 1st).

:-)
#8
Hello again,

I don't know exactly which version this started with, but it was a while ago. Every time I run this software, I almost always expand the size of the window using the bottom-right corner. I like to see everything I can and it makes choosing software to install easier as I don't have to scroll as much.

The problem is the behavior changed and now the left pane (the list/checkboxes of software) does not automatically resize when the window is enlarged. It used to before and the right pane (where it gives the status of the Downloading and Installing software) still expands and works fine. But it's annoying as I can only see a small portion of the software list instead of a large portion (and thus less scrolling).

Again, just a minor thing, but I figured I would bring it up anyway as it worked before. Thanks.  :)
#9
It seems like it is fixed. I've ran it 4-5 times (once on 4-5 different machines) and I don't recall it stopping at all. So thank you!  :)  If it crops back up, I'll let you know.


I'll create a new topic about the other minor annoyance. Thanks again.
#10
The time when it stops is random, there's no rhyme or reason for it to happen, no specific program or anything. But, I can at least give you a list of the most common tools I install on most of the computers I work on:

Adobe Flash Plugin, Adobe Flash ActiveX, Adobe Shockwave, Java 8 (both x64 and x86), Google Chrome, VLC Media Player, 7-Zip, CCleaner, Classic Shell, Adobe Reader DC, LibreOffice, Mozilla Thunderbird, Paint.Net, AVG Free, MalwareBytes

I know, that probably doesn't help, but please let me know if there's something else I can do.

Also, a second but minor annoyance... Now when I enlarge the windows size (by clicking and dragging the bottom right corner), the window resizes fine along with the right-pane inside, but the left pane (the list of tools) does NOT resize. It stays whatever size that PatchMyPC opened in. It's minor as I just like to have more real estate to view all of the tools, but still, would be nice if it resized like it did before.

Thanks.
#11
I've seen this problem several more times in the past couple of days. I can't seem to run it on any machine without it stopping, no matter what I do. I can leave the mouse still after clicking the button, or move it, turn off anti-virus, etc., it just stops randomly. It's becoming very annoying and I hope something can be done to fix it when you get a chance.

I'd be happy to help troubleshoot or give more information if needed.

Thank you.
#12
Hello,

I use the free version of PatchMyPC regularly and I've noticed a weird thing on the past few versions. Intermittently (randomly on various different computers) after it scans the PC and I select a few additional programs I want and click on the button to start the updates, it will proceed, but then sometimes, out of the blue, just stop after one of the program updates. It completes whatever program it was on, and then just stops, like I clicked on the Cancel Updater button, even though I didn't touch the machine (I leave the computer alone and let it do its thing while it updates). I've even had it do it multiple times in a row after I clicked start updates twice to restart it after it stopped.

I thought it was maybe because I was moving the mouse outside of the program window or moving it off of the main update button or something, but it doesn't seem to matter. It still happens at weird times, and sometimes on some machines, sometimes not at all.

Is there something I'm doing wrong or somewhere the cursor needs to be when updating so it doesn't get interrupted? It's annoying to start the process (which can take a long time depending on internet connection and number of programs selected), walk away or do other work without paying attention, and then come back and have it only completed 2 of 30 when it had plenty of time to do them all. I work on several computers at a time every day and want to get them out the door before more come in, so it's just the waste of time that bothers me is all. Otherwise, the software is awesome and I praise everything you do with it.  :)

Thanks for your help.
#13
The problem with any portable application is that the file(s) can be located anywhere on the hard drive. This is different than an installed program which has information in the registry and elsewhere about where it's files are located so that it can be easily updated or removed. I don't think PatchMyPC will take the time to scour the hard drive to hopefully find the one portable app that you want to update and then re-download it to get it updated. That's too much effort and too many things that can go wrong, as well as making the whole process take far longer. I believe that's why no portable app is supported, but I could be wrong. Just putting in my 2 cents.  :)
#14
Thank you.

Yes, I believe if you try to install the personal/home version on a Windows Server product, then it will want you to have the paid version as there is no free version for servers. But no problem, glad it was a simple thing.  :-)
#15
That's not true at all. I've been installing AVG Free on countless machines for the past 3+ years and never once have I ever had to enter a serial number or an email address, for that matter. I do know that Avast requires a free registration using your email to get a license for a year, but AVG does NOT do this.

Where did you get this information, or the files from AVG? As I mentioned in my previous post, those links are good, or you can go directly to the website where they come from, which is: http://www.avg.com/us-en/download.prd-afh-free

I believe that FileHippo.com uses the same files for AVG Free, if that makes any difference.