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Unwanted Behavior for new App versions with Required for Install assignments

Started by Fadderson, March 28, 2024, 09:41:35 AM

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Fadderson

Hello!

following scenario:

You have an application created in PMP, lets say it's the common Microsoft App "Powertoys".

You allow your IT Admins to add groups to this App via INTUNE.

Your IT Admins add some groups as REQUIRED for Install.

There is a new version for that app that is automatically added via Publisher.

You have configured the app so it copies all the assignments to the new app version.

Now in Intune, there will be a new app package and it will also likely contain the REQUIRED assignments.


-> What will happen now? The clients will instantly receive the new app version because it is now assigned as REQUIRED just like the previous app version.

Our question is, how can we prevent this? We don't want all the clients to instantly receive the new update because that's the task of the "Update for" packages, that will also automatically be created.

The update package is configured with deferal times, similar to a ring deployment concept. This is done by adding availability times in the config in PMP.

When PMP automatically creates a new app package and copies all the required assignments from the old version, this behavior destroys the update concept of the app and rather than a ring deployment, we suddenly have a big bang update.

Is there any way to tackle this?

Regards, Dominic

Raunak Desai (Patch My PC)

Hey fadderson,

Thank you for reaching out.

For the deployment of updates, you can definitelys setup multiple ring and also set the delay from PatchMyPc publisher.

Once the next version releases, it will honor those delays.

if you have also set the Dynamic Assignments, and targeted to all devices without any delays, then that will take precedence over the manual assignments.

https://patchmypc.com/manage-dynamic-assignments

Regards,
Raunak


Fadderson

Quote from: Raunak Desai (Patch My PC) on April 01, 2024, 10:19:52 PMHey fadderson,

Thank you for reaching out.

For the deployment of updates, you can definitelys setup multiple ring and also set the delay from PatchMyPc publisher.

Once the next version releases, it will honor those delays.

if you have also set the Dynamic Assignments, and targeted to all devices without any delays, then that will take precedence over the manual assignments.

https://patchmypc.com/manage-dynamic-assignments

Regards,
Raunak



Thank you for your reply Raunak. Indeed we can manually set the delay from the publisher. But is there another way to solve this?

The problem lies within the shear amount of work that would happen for us. We do have 20 admins who may add groups to an application via Intune. So each time a required assignment group is added to an app that is also patched by pmp, we would have to edit the ,,Intune Apps" section and manually set the delay for 8 rings per country/admin. That would mean in extreme 160 manual groups need to be added in pmp PER app.

Regards, Dominic

Fadderson

EDIT:

Our problem is exactly this one here. We need this feature.

https://patchmypc.com/delaying-configmgr-base-application-updates
https://ideas.patchmypc.com/ideas/PATCHMYPC-I-257

The issue is, we do not use Config Manager and therefore the feature is not incluced?

Is there any chance that this can be included also without Config Manager?

Regards, Dominic